More Happier: Guest Co-Host! The Iconic Heather Dubrow of “Real Housewives” Fame

This week, for the first time, we have a co-host! From The Real Housewives of Orange County, we’re joined by Heather Dubrow, an actor, an entrepreneur, and host of the terrific podcast, Heather Dubrow’s World.

Something Making Us (More) Happier

  • Elizabeth: She loves her “Cup of Ambition” mug, inspired by the theme song of the iconic movie Nine to Five
  • Gretchen: “Go Outside 23 in 23” has made me realize that, as a New Yorker, I spend more time outside than I realized.
  • Heather: The infrared sauna.

Happiness Lessons from Real Housewives

Heather talks about how being on the Real Housewives has helped her learn to deal with conflict.

Bonus hack from Heather: If it feels really good to say something, you probably shouldn’t say it.

Spotlight on a Tool

You can use the “Share Link” function in your smartphone to send this episode to a friend who is a Real Housewives fan.

Happiness Lessons from Real Housewives

Because Elizabeth and I are both intimidated by entertaining, we ask Heather for suggestions about how to give a great party.


You can never predict what little things in the way somebody looks or talks or acts will set off peculiar emotional reactions in other people. The Philosophy of Andy Warhol: From A to B and Back Again, Andy Warhol  (Amazon, Bookshop)




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