Bonus: Who Am I Without Kids at Home? (Gretchen Rubin on “Laugh Lines”)

I joined Kim and Penn Holderness on their podcast “Laugh Lines” for a funny, thoughtful talk about parenting after the kids move out—a great listen as families come back together for the holidays.

Get in touch: podcast@gretchenrubin.com.

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